These are new, not refurb
Onkyo TX-RZ610 7.2Ch Network Audio/Video Receiver
http://www.woot.com/offers/onkyo-…cnt_wp_0_1
Onkyo TX-RZ810 7.2Ch Network Audio/Video Receiver
http://www.woot.com/offers/onkyo-…cnt_wp_0_2
These are new, not refurb
Onkyo TX-RZ610 7.2Ch Network Audio/Video Receiver
http://www.woot.com/offers/onkyo-…cnt_wp_0_1
Onkyo TX-RZ810 7.2Ch Network Audio/Video Receiver
http://www.woot.com/offers/onkyo-…cnt_wp_0_2